Chapter 6-Page-26-Learning Curve
Mar04
Cocoa struck violent and fast, but Sabrina seemed to weather it pretty well, this not being her first time being jumped, though one of the first times ever being jumped by a former friend.
Audio Interview with Lora Innes
As some of you might know, my friend Lora Innes was the one who thought up of Cocoa Rococo in the first place, way back in 2009 and we’ve worked together to make her a part of the Rival Angels universe. I had a chance to talk to her this weekend about Cocoa, how she started and where she’s going. This is definitely a must for Cocoa and RA fans and is just under 8 minutes long, and a fast download. Check it out.
Voting Incentive!
Then again, could the Cocoa’s Double Armbar be too much for our Ultragirl? Vote to find out!
Ahhh, it would be Atlas, wouldn’t it? Goram perv.
Even when he’s not around, he’s around.
Well, I was right about Atlas, at least! But I’m glad Sabrina seems to be back on top of things. Keep it going!
Well, she’s mad and when she gets going…
Come on Sun and Sabrina beat up this great character who was a better friend than Sun and let Sun have her big “I told you so scene”
Maybe Sun felt threatened in the BFF department?
By the way, the ending leaves me all choked up.
*yawns* Ba dum chsh!
Word. XD
Heyyy… if memory serves, she was getting buds with Shamrox before she met Cocoa.
And Shamrox warned her she was the Tom Cruise of Brazil. WE WERE WARNED, PEOPLE!!!
btw can barely hear Lora on the podcast. At least without cranking it up. Still, good interview. 😀
Glad you liked the interview! Yep, Shamrox DID tell her, but not necessarily mean that. XD
I listened to the interview & discovered that I was right on saying that Rococo is the HEEL DEL RIO OF RA, moves & attitude wise. That is why I LOVE her. She is the Rosa Mendes/Melina. lol Now we need Rua vs Rococo to happen.
Works for me 😀
SEE, the champ herself wants it….. MAKE IT HAPPEN!!!!!!!!!!!!! The RA World Heavyweight Champion RUA vs The BRA invading Heelish Del Rio ROCOCO!!! AGAIN, MAKE… IT….HAPPEN!!! lol
Also Rococo needs a better arm submission finisher, I say give her The Cross-Arm Breaker BUT in a Fuji-Armbar position. Picture how the Cross-Arm Breaker is but with the opponent being face down in the Fuji-Armbar position. Now that would be a arm submission to find yourself getting out of. lol
IN my fanfic..
I think the Champ is going to be busy enough as-is. 😉
This is called ashi gatame. It defaults to a shoulder lock, but it can work against the elbow too. I haven’t seen it used in wrestling so this could be cool.
Wow, that move just got bookmarked and Youtube saved.
DUDE, I ADORE ROSA! When I first saw Rococo, I thought the RA Rosa with Heel Del Rio moves, since she is South American like Rosa with arm based moves that Heel Del Rio focuses on. I could EASILY see Rococo doing in RA what Heel Del Rio did & feud with Rua. I WOULD LOVE THAT!
Also boss, your saying we WILL BE SEEING the champ in action more this time. lol Hopefully that is true also.
Thanks for the name champ, I bet it will be a hard submission to get out of unlike what Rococo has now or even the Cross-arm Breaker.
ROCOCO VS RUA, MAKE IT HAPPEN!!! lol
Also boss, your saying we WILL BE SEEING the champ in action more this time.
Yes, I cautiously say. It’s the plan, anyways. I have a lot of things I’d like to cover with the rest of Season 2. 😉
mmmmmm, love Rosa. Glad you love Rosa and Cocoa as well. 🙂
Ha, Cocoa’s about to be schooled. As Sabrina’s no one helpless victim anymore. 🙂
Go get her Ultra Girl. 😀
She plans it!
Atlas!? Oooooooooo! Loving this match!
It is evolving, eh? XD
Hmmm..I wonder why Cocoa didn’t go for a triangle choke? And there are still two other very dangerous wrestlers in the ring and others perhaps in the crowd watching the match. I predict Sabrina is going down, but not without a valiant fight. As anyone who knows anything at all about Midwest female wrestlers would expect.
Those two dangerous wrestlers probably knew it was coming. My theory is still that Atlas paid them off.
But they just spent several minutes getting legit beat up by Cocoa, who was on their side all along, and this is something that always bugs me whenever I see it done in real life wrestling. It’s one of the things about the genre that makes no sense.
If you are secretly in league with your opponents in a match and getting ready to stab your partner in the back, how much sense does it make to beat up the people you’re secretly in league with? None, that’s how much sense it makes.
Why don’t you just hit your partner from behind right at the beginning? Or have your partner start out the match, let her get beat up by the people on the other side of the ring, and then hit her when she goes for the tag?
Sorry if mentioning the e-fed I’m in is getting tiresome, but in that fed my character was in a War Games match once. For people who’ve never seen one in real life, that’s a match inside a cage with two teams of five wrestlers each. It starts out with two wrestlers in the ring, while the other eight are stuck on the outside. After five minutes, somebody from one team or the other is allowed inside the cage, and it becomes a two-on-one situation. After another five minutes, somebody from the other team is allowed in, so it becomes two-on-two. It goes on like this until everybody is inside the cage, and a winner can’t be declared until all ten people are inside the cage. At that point, the first team to score a submission wins the match.
Okay, so in this particular War Games match, my team had made a deal with somebody on the other team. He was going to be our mole, he was gonna turn on his teammates once all ten wrestlers were inside the cage, and help my team get the win.
But, unless he ended up being the last guy in, he’d end up having to at least pretend to fight the people on my team, so nobody would get suspicious.
So we told the guy writing the match “Have him just fake it, like do stuff which looks painful but actually isn’t. Like a submission move where he isn’t actually applying any pressure. Or have him pretend to be knocked out when he actually isn’t. Or something.”
And our mole, the whole time he was in the cage, did absolutely nothing but stall while working a headlock on one of the other wrestlers. He wasn’t actually applying any pressure, as he would later admit.
To me that made a lot more sense than if he’d decided to do his very best to beat the living hell out of my team–his new friends–for twenty minutes or so.
Oh wow, man…Rob sounds all too plausible….
If Cocoa had to make her betrayal look good and plausible, she’d have needed to play along with the whole match. If the match never started, Sabrina wouldn’t have fulfilled the final bout that she was contractually obligated to clear, meaning that she’d have to come back for yet another match and this time she would be the one on the offensive because it would be up to when and where Sabrina wanted to hold it.
As for the Syndicate, they’re not Sabrina’s friends and in fact were being paid to look out for her. Their attitudes indicated that they didn’t otherwise like her, so they might help Cocoa now but still have beef with Cocoa later, if that were to so transpire. Although if the boss put Cocoa up to this, Syndicate would have to tread carefully and maybe just bide their time.
But this falls under three categories when you see it happen.
1) “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” Maybe better to say temporarily my friend, but you pick your battles even as a heel and sometimes the person you have more problems with, you just jump in on an existing beatdown because 2+ people can do more damage than just the 1 can.
2) “Honor among thieves.” If there’s one thing a heel can respect, it’s a good heel play. Obviously they don’t want it to negatively affect their careers if they can help it, but a face-heel turn is treated as a good thing to heels, an excellent play in selfishness that makes them begrudgingly accept the hits they had to take to see that play out. It was all a part of the plan. Respect to the plan.
3) “It’s hard to book heels against each other in a grudge match.” That’s probably not an old saying, I’ll have to look it up, but basically the heels kinda have to accept the turning attacker because otherwise you have this weird thing. On the one hand, the face wants revenge against the heel who attacked them. They also want to beat the other heel team cleanly, but for the moment they have no backup. Then the heel team is also supposed to still want to get even on the newly-turned other heel for beating on them despite the heel turn? That puts all the focus on the new heel wrestler, and while the two solo peeps can have their match, now you’ve also got a situation where the best viable partners against that original heel team end up being the same people who just split up anyway… which you could try to run with, but it’s seldom a winning formula because you could just end up turning the solo heel right back to a face again and the thing looks even more crazy because of that.
So something’s got to give, which is why 1 and 2 lead into this one as a kind of rationale for these tactics when they come up.
LORA: “Sun…all of her points were legitimate…”
ME: “All due respect: no, they weren’t. Some of them were. The part where she implied that wrestling in BRA was all catfights with Neko and wrestling in jello was crap.”
I’m glad you did the interview, and sorry if I came across as psychotic in the last set of comments, but…this has left me discouraged about Cocoa’s future.
Albone made the comparison with Ted DiBiase (a.k.a. The Million Dollar Man), but there’s a big difference between him and Cocoa. While I wasn’t a wrestling fan during DiBiase’s time, I’ve been watching the shows with him one by one at OSWReview, and I don’t recall him ever getting cheers. This is because DiBiase was a dick and worked hard to make people see him as a dick.
Cocoa, on the other hand, hasn’t kicked any dogs (figuratively speaking), hasn’t been an egotistical snob, hasn’t done anything bad really…until now.
I’m hoping–again, probably in vain–that the only reason she’s decided to get physical with Sabrina is because Atlas told her some lies about Sabrina’s reasons for leaving that pushed her berserk button.
No matter what the original plan for her was, I refuse to believe that the real Cocoa is like this.
Let me compare her to another real life, male wrestler. The personas are different. A lot of things are different. But one thing is the same.
There’s a guy who wrestled primarily in WCW named Steve Borden. To wrestling fans, he was called Sting. He was a face, a hero, pretty much from day one in WCW. Fans loved him. Eventually, in the dying days of WCW, a decision was made to turn him heel. Fans would not accept it. They still cheered for Sting. The heel turn didn’t take, and it wasn’t long before WCW realized they’d made a mistake and turned Sting face again.
Pretty much every time they tried to turn Sting heel after that, it didn’t take, because fans wouldn’t accept it.
Now I’m not gonna pretend that everybody who reads and comments here feels the way I do about this development. There’s me, david, GoldenGirlDizzy, RAWF, and I guess that might be everybody. But Albone said it himself in the interview: people fell in love with her.
And now some of those people are getting their hearts broken.
Cocoa’s a much better face than she is a heel. She shouldn’t stay a heel, regardless of what the original plan was.
As for the origin story, I’m hoping it shows Cocoa in a more sympathetic light than we’re seeing here.
There is a huge trend now in wrestling to mark out for the heel. Heels usually get better lines, better moves and win many battles even if they don’t win the war. The lines of black and white heel/face is gone.. thanks to guys like rocky and austin… if you watch ROH at all (i am lucky to have it on my local tv) people cheer Kevin Steen more than they boo him.. in fact Jay Lethal is TAKING boos now because he’s against Kevin. Half the crowd in WWE boo’s Cena.. because regardless of his working ability he is marked as the face of the PG era and the “real fans” hate him for it. If you spend any time on a wrestling forum people are starting to turn on CM Punk and Zack Ryder.. and ZERO amount of improvment in ring and out of ring will ever get the IWC onto The Miz’s side. At the end of the day if Albone saids Cocoa flipped a insano switch.. she flipped an insano switch. As vested as we are in these characters.. they still aren’t ours.. we still don’t have foresight into XYZ. All because we want something to be one way, doesn’t mean thats how its gonna be. I have faith in Albone that this won’t be some generic swerve.. but ya know if it is than there’s a reason for it and we just need to accept that.
*Gives truth points to Drew*
Okay, while that’s true and while I know about all those examples, let me tell you why I inwardly groan when I see somebody turn heel.
I don’t mean a Kevin Steen heel turn where “He did something bad but everybody is still cheering for him, so the company is gonna keep pushing him as a badass.” Or, to use an example from this comic, Sun Wong cheating all the time and being kind of a bitch to people but getting a pass on all of it, apart from the crowd booing her and Dawn scolding her on commentary.
I mean a heel turn like Austin Aries in TNA.
When I read that Austin Aries had turned heel in TNA, I groaned and thought to myself “Well, guess he’s not gonna win the title back from Hardy then.” In a face vs. face match, he might’ve had a chance. As a heel, he’d almost certainly be booked to lose.
Heels, the way they’re usually booked in WWE and TNA, lose more often than faces and can’t win clean. As you said, they don’t win the war. They sometimes don’t even win the battle; see the last several matches Christopher Daniels has had as a heel. The only people exempt from that I can think of off the top of my head are HHH, 2011 Mark Henry, and Jack Swagger this year (until he jobs to ADR at Mania, that is).
By the way, I think the reason a lot of people get behind heels is because of the losses. When you see Dolph Ziggler get beaten time after time after time, he becomes the underdog whether WWE wants him to be or not. People root for underdogs. Ergo, people root for Ziggler.
All signs point toward bad things happening to Cocoa, and I don’t want to see that.
I don’t like the character because she’s a heel. I like her because she wasn’t. I started liking her the instant she took that chair and rammed it into Black Widow’s stomach.
(Oh, and Cena’s working ability? It sucks, and that’s part of why people boo him. I watched the recent match between him and Punk because everybody was raving about it, and if the match was good it was because Punk carried him. Again. I didn’t see Cena do anything special or new apart from the power bomb–and while at least it was something new, it was kind of an average power bomb when you come right down to it. It wasn’t a good power bomb like Vader would have delivered. It wasn’t a good power bomb like Sid would have delivered–yes, I just said that frickin’ Sid of all people is better at executing a move than Cena, and I’m standing by that statement. The less said about Cena’s attempt at a hurricanrana the better. But back to the comic.)
You’re right, they aren’t our characters. We’re just along for the ride for as long as we want to be. But we can do something here that we can’t do with WWE, TNA, ROH, etc. We can directly ask for things to happen or not to happen. Is Albone going to consider or grant those requests? That’s up to him. But making those requests can’t hurt.
P.S. I realize that I said “I didn’t see Cena do anything special or new apart from the power bomb” and shortly after “The less said about Cena’s attempt at a hurricanrana the better,” when a hurricanrana isn’t part of his typical moveset.
Let me clarify.
PROBLEM: Cena has a relatively boring moveset.
SOLUTION: Have him start using more moves, if he’s capable of doing them at least passably well. E.g., power bomb.
HOW TO MAKE THINGS WORSE: Have him try to do moves that he just isn’t good enough to do. E.g. hurricanrana and monkey flip.
Based on that match, Cena can’t manage a decent-looking hurricanrana. Either because he hasn’t practiced the move, or because he’s a ‘roid monkey who’s sacrificed mobility for muscles, but the point is he can’t do it.
Having him bust out a gutwrench suplex like I believe he’s done now and then, or a backbreaker, or a side Russian leg sweep–relatively simple stuff that would still provide some variety–would help. It wouldn’t change the fact, though, that Cena is average in the ring at best.
People like HBK, Jericho, Aries, Bryan, Punk, McGuinness, and others became stars because, in addition to being able to cut a promo and being in good shape, they were able to execute moves well and make fans’ eyes pop out of their heads.
Cena can cut a promo. And he has muscles, big ones. Those are the reasons he has fans. He’s not a great wrestler.
You couldn’t be further from the truth on Cena.. he tows the line given to him… the ball he was handed has a limited move set and that’s unfortunate but again is why I refrain from these types of conversations. Most of the IWC has the what have you done for me lately mentality, its why I always come to Sabrina’s defense, Cenas also.. hating them is fine.. that’s everyones right.. doing so because they win a lot is 0_o. I was also lucky enough to have OVW on my local system.. this was back when both Cena and Batista wrestled for them. Cena was a technical wrestler called the prototype.. every match he had a new move… even with hia size he moved around really well.. probably what got him noticed by the wwe in the first place. The newer generation of fan doesn’t get chain wrestling or resting moves.. there is no hardcore or blood to distract them from botchs or bad camera angles.. move sets are kept small for this reason.. attention spans aren’t what they used to be. Austin used to be the ring master.. the man of a thousand submission moves.. rocky was the all american boy.. who greeko romaned more than he wrassled. The point is that at the end of the day writer A has to appease fan 1-10000000 .. he must account for too many things and will never please us all. Cena and Rocky (yes the rock has a horrible move set.. and Austin got the stunner from a kid in ecw named Mikey Whipwreck) show modern fans the quickest and most spectacular flash of their skills.. because that’s their character.. that’s how they were written.. just as Punk ia written to know a bunch of moves. Rey 15 years ago was breath taking.. now he’s a spot machine.. that isnt to say he sucks.. but physically can not be the Rey I grew up with. So yea Cena is a beast in the ring.. but a writter condensed it.. let albone show us his plan.. thwy haven’t sucked yet.. why would they start now?
As a writer, there are two big jobs: pay attention to what real people do and to tell the truth. Let me tell you a quick story.
Frank and Bill went to High School together and even though Bill had a bit of a malicious streak, they got along, even better after school. They bonded over the next 10 year making comic anthologies, going to comic shows, standing up in each other’s weddings and being there for the birth of their children. One day, Frank has an idea for a really great comic: a Monster Truck comic! But Frank feels that he doesn’t want to portray it in an anthology anymore. Frank wants it to stand on its own merit. Bill says great, but becomes distant and cold over the next year, not only shunning shows together, but shunning work and Frank as well, the same year that the Monster Truck comic takes off. Finally at a local show, one where Frank is a Guest Of Honor, Bill buys a ticket to get in and when he sees Frank, launches into a tirade about what a lousy person Frank is and making a scene completely taking Frank by surprise.
Readers might not like Cocoa’s actions and they might not make 100% sense to everyone, but I’m telling the truth.
(P.S. Trevor, the guy who loves Brooke and posts every update was no more than a foot away when ‘Bill’ blew up on ‘Frank’ at the comic show.)
All right, you have a point, sometimes that’s how things go.
But not always. I’ve got a story too that I was reminded of when I read the part about the shunning.
There was one time when I was talking to this woman I was friends with, and she said something that I found really hurtful. I don’t want to go into what she said because it’s kind of personal, but I really could not believe she’d said it.
So I stopped speaking to her altogether. I don’t know how mature that was, but it’s what I did. She’d really hurt me, and I was like “All right, that’s it, we’re not friends any more.”
Kind of like how I would have reacted to Sun’s comment about wearing the boots to suck off Atlas, actually, if I were Sabrina.
Anyhoo, me and this woman crossed paths a number of times, and each time she’d say “Hi Rob,” and each time I’d completely ignore her. I was thinking “No. You know why I’m holding a grudge against you, and you do not get to just pretend nothing ever happened. We’re done.”
This kept on going until one night when she asked me if we could talk. And, instead of saying “no” and walking off, I responded with a reluctant “okay…” I was still mad, but enough time had passed for me to be willing to listen to what she had to say.
She talked. I listened. She told me how she felt, why she’d said what she said in the first place, and that she was sorry for saying it. I didn’t feel so bitter after that, and I told her how hearing it made me feel, acknowledged that I might’ve overreacted, apologized for being so cold to her, etc.
We made up. We’re friends again now. The story had a happy ending.
Real life doesn’t always have happy endings, I get that. Real people don’t always make up. The truth is harsh sometimes. But sometimes, everything turns out okay. There’s still the possibility that Sabrina and Cocoa can patch things up one of these days, or that Cocoa can deal with her issues, or whatever.
It can turn out the way things did with me and my friend, instead of the way things turned out with Frank and Bill, and still be true to life.
I mean, if Bret and Shawn can bury the hatchet, anything’s possible in real life.
First off, thanks for sharing your story. It sounds as personal as what I went through…I mean ‘Frank.’ 😛 And you know that’s a crappy place to be in and I’m glad that things worked out for you. As for Frank, things never really got better but that doesn’t mean that Sabrina and Cocoa are destined for that.
Well, I’ve seen a lot of Heel Turns in wrestling that were out of the blue and nigh-unexpected. Even some that were foreshadowed but made me sad anyway. Truth is, people are weird and can turn on you in Real Life just as sudden. Had it happen.
btw, I was so proud of the fans for not letting Sting turn heel and I think I remember him thanking the fans for it too, the next day on Impact Wrestling.
I was figuring that Atlas was involved at some point. Using Cocoa to nudge Sabrina one way or the other.
Or maybe even using Sabrina to nudge Cocoa.
Is sad by this turn of events.
No matter what, the hard feelings will last long, even if their friendship is over.
The Atlas reveal is not a big shocker.
As for how all this went down… I will agree with Rob B on one thing that the foreshadowing was too minimal. If she was supposed to be materialistic and diva-ish, there should have been more signs of that than having a lot of shopping bags. There is such a thing as being too subtle.
That said, the impression I’m getting now is that Cocoa’s friendship was genuine… but she is also very messed up in the head. It comes down to the idea that she’s all smiles and sunshine when everyone is dancing to the same tune, but if she is slighted (real or imagined, as it seems that part of her malfunction is no sense of proportion) she can turn very vicious. “I gave you clothes! I showed you the awesome nightlife! I hooked you up modelling! All I ask in return is that you place me above everything else and be my loyal lickspittle!”
The idea being that she’s the kind of person who will turn on you for very petty reasons. I’ve actually encountered people who have acted this way, where they would fall out with someone they treated like their closest friend over something that from the outside seems very trivial.
Sum up — the picture I’m getting is that Cocoa is extremely egocentric but is good at concealing that by being charming and using her looks to her benefit. When given evidence that the world does not revolve around her, she reacts… badly.
That’s what I’m getting from all this, anyway.
Nice summary.
I’d also add that, for people who claimed this wasn’t foreshadowed enough, that it’s not a mystery novel, you’re not necessarily supposed to spot all the plot twists ahead of time.
It’s my hope that reading it outside of 3X a week might help, but the way you summed it up is well done.
Thanks! Anyway, there is one other issue, which is that of willful blindness. I know Sabrina gets a lot of comparisons to Sting (including by yours truly), but to be fair it is something that happens more often than many would care to admit. That being, your other friends all tell you that this one is bad news, but because they haven’t done anything bad where you could see, you don’t want to believe it. Cutting off a friendship is traumatic, and we are naturally inclined to give friends chances that we wouldn’t give strangers.
Incidentally, I blame the bookers for giving Sting that ‘naive moron’ reputation. They consistently wanted to book him as a true blue good guy, and that includes trying to see the best in people. The trouble is they went to the same well too often with the doublecross stories, and so each time he fell for one he got a bit dumber in the eyes of the fans. Bookers in general seem to focus on what’s happening NOW, and often forget or ignore stuff that lingers in the fans’ memories. Thus we have Sting… intended to be good natured and willing to give the benefit of the doubt, but coming off as incredibly gullible because he keeps falling for the same trick over and over.
Sabrina was also in a spot where some people might have given her grief for her close association with Sun and the bad things she’s done. I always saw Sabrina giving someone else the benefit of the doubt as well.
Sting did get bamboozled a few times. I thought the Crow thing would fix that, but as we’ve seen, it hasn’t. 😛
Very nice installment. All becomes known. But Brina needs to get to her feet fast with two others in the ring, probably coming up behind her.
It’s very interesting to see the fan support behind Cocoa. Just why is a mystery to me though. Ok, I know her shorts are a part LoL. But that’s not enough. It can’t be that she befriended Brina; Shamrox did too but never got such backing. Hmmm…
I’m always *amazed* at who gets over and who doesn’t. Sabrina DOES need to get out of the hold, even if she’s got the upper hand, so to speak.
Personally, I’ve always preferred ‘Roxxy, Chickenhead. 😛
It’s not her thighs, Brenda, or her build; the difference is that Shamrox is kind of a bit character. We see her when she has a match, when ‘Brina goes backstage and talks to everybody backstage briefly, and she was one of three people who helped Sabrina train for her match against BW…but that’s been it, right?
Cocoa had a much more prominent role. We got to know her a lot better. We got to know her well enough to be emotionally invested in her in a way that we couldn’t be in Shamrox.
But speaking of Shamrox…wouldn’t it be crazy if Elite picked now of all times to actually run down for the save, right after Cocoa mentioned their unreliability?
*insert many of JRs lines here* hehe
if Cocoa knocked Sabrina out again…
Cocoa said “Hit my music”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV0LHCHf-pE
Cocoa dance..
If that actually is her music, I could hate her just for that.
If this was her ring music she’d be the first wrestler on Rival Angels to need a police escort.
it’s great actually.. coz she’s a heel..
so..
maybe change the lyrics
Cocoa pin Sabrina..
{as music starts}
Do the Cocoa shake
funny guys..
that song is fun in our country..
The problem is that, my joke above aside, it doesn’t actually make me hate HER, it makes me hate her music.
Someone a while ago suggested I use “Call Me Maybe” as theme music. (Come to think of it, it might’ve been you :P) As I said then, the problem with a using whatever meme-of-the-day is popular today is a horrible idea no matter whether you’re a face or a heel. Trends vanish in the blink of an eye. You need something with staying power. Can you imagine how ridiculous (not in a good way) someone would look today using “Gangnam Style” as their entrance music and horse-dancing their way down the aisle?
I hate Gangnam style..
Harlem shake is better.. though..
good that gangnam style died..
Point is, all these things die, usually sooner rather than later. Attaching your star to a trend means that when it does, so do you.
I LOVE Gangnam style. The video was funny! lol
I said it in the forums but it bears repeating here since now it’s an improvement: “Supermassive Black Hole” by Muse.
Oh, on the subject of “Harlem Shake”, one former WWF talent recently made his feelings known:
http://www.wrestlecrap.com/rants/epic-tweet-from-wrestling-history-22013/
well until the VI i was about to say Cocoa’s “nigh invincible submission of doom” may really get to be re-thought some as it has failed both times we’ve seen it so far. unless brina’s playing possum but i think she’s a bit too upset to be thinking strategically like that atm.
so the atlas theory is proving to be leading in the right direction like a lot of us thought. what exactly got offered is still up in the air.
@Rob- i think Cocoa looks to be possessed by the “green eyed monster” very easily and so the spurning of her in any way is going to provoke this kind of jealous rage in her. still haven;t found out the reason for the alley beatdown yet- maybe there was another offer of friendship and the beatdown-ee turned her down. Cocoa doesn;t appear to like any compeititon between her and what she has marked out as “her” territory
and like drew said heels tend to get the more interesting characters than the faces do so people are drawn to them. add in the idea that Cocoa can be a face if she wanted (which she did briefly) and you get the “edgy face” thing that austin/rock had going.
@brenda- cocoa also had a bigger presence than shamrox did in the comic so people got to know her better so it’s easier to to be drawn to her. plus the “defeat= friendship” idea with brina and cocoa so you had adversaries becoming friends so there’s that added dynamic to it while shamrox was a friend the whole time so there’s no previous drama involved. plus because of Cocoa- Brina broke out the mini-ring gear which went over well. plus- dem shorts.
but hey don;t worry everyone ELITE will be on the way…any minute now…yessiree….they won’t let brina down….
As to Cocoa’s alleyway beatdown, she does reference quickly on this page, if that helps give you a baseline. XD
LOLZ @ Elite.
yeah i saw that bit about her being ungrateful though some info’s still missing. she was good enough to help in the beatdown, then cocoa ratted her out. so i think we’re still missing an event or two to finish connecting the dots between cocoa and ex-bff #1
Huh, I scroll down and see you made a lot of the same points I did, only earlier. Swear I wasn’t plagiarizing you buddy; great minds just think alike. 😉
(Although I’m sincere in my guess that Elite might actually show up for once. Not Ian; I think his loyalties would be too conflicted. But Kaci, Shamrox and Dragon Fire, maybe.)
Anyway, based on what little additional information we have, here’s what might have happened in Brazil:
-Cocoa, possibly, tends to do exactly what I faulted Sun for a little while ago, i.e. assume the worst about people;
-When being questioned about the beatdown, they used the old “You know, your friend’s in the other room pinning everything on you right now” trick;
-Cocoa fell for it because, again, she assumed her partner couldn’t be trusted. So she confessed to save herself;
-Her partner got fired, Cocoa believed that her partner had rolled on her first, hence “she was an ungrateful whore” today.
As for why they beat up what’s-her-face in the parking lot to begin with, that’s anybody’s guess.
I will be honest boss, I was expecting this story to go on a bit more. I was thinking that Cocoa was going to try and pull something heavy on their opponents and Sabrina would stop her. Then that would have caused tension in the locker room and Cocoa farther to the edge having Sabby ‘betray’ her like that. Later, another match for Sabrina with a villain run in with Cocoa making a ‘save’ but then the double cross. But, hey that’s me.
help your friend Mo Chen..
hahaha
That’s not bad at all, but the way the other facets in the story, Sun’s arrival, their fight and Sabrina needing to pick between RA and BRA led the story down this path.
I say have the BRA girls INVADE Rival Angels! That way Rococo, Kaci, Shamrock, The Syndicate, Neko, & the others can be in RA to feud with Sabrina & the champ herself.
LoL you want to see me and Shamrox square off for rights to “Celt Warror”? I’ve already got a claim against Sheamus, as I had the tag years before him. But he’s “CeltIC Warrior” so I’m going easy on him. Won’t cut Shamrox any slack though. Hmmph!
Well, to be fair, Shamrox’s moniker is the ‘Irish Gangsta,’ so I don’t think she’s TM infringing, though she’d never say ‘NO’ to such a great competitor as the Champ. 🙂
Sabrina’s angle is gonna backfire here. Cocoa is too smart to get choked out in position of her own submission hold. Which will lead to Sabrina gunning for Cocoa from here on out. If Sabrina beats down Cocoa here there is no story and no look for revenge if Sabrina gets it immediately. Cocoa will be the one left standing here.
Loved the audio interview with Lora as well, I was going to type this last night but after listening to the audio I went to bed and forgot to until now. lol
Oh, there’s a way for things to go Cocoa’s way and set up a revenge story later. I’ll hate seeing it if it happens, but it’s a very real possibility.
Sabrina gets the better of Cocoa, only to get jumped by the Syndicate girls. Three-on-one beatdown commences, possibly broken up by somebody making the save for Sabrina. Thus we have Sabrina looking strong but still having gotten beat up and with a reason to go after Cocoa for revenge, and Cocoa looking weak and villainous.
Putting aside my feelings about the Cocoa heel turn: I’d hate to see that happen if it were somebody else turning on Sabrina, like Kaci. Because if there’s one thing I have never liked seeing in a story, it’s a weak villain. One thing I’ve liked about this comic is that we haven’t seen very many weak villains in it. But that doesn’t mean we never will…
Er, meant for that first sentence to say “…there’s a way for things to go Sabrina’s way and still set up a revenge story later.”
I’m so glad that you liked the audio interview! Lora was really awesome for agreeing to that short notice, but then again, she’s a Rival Angels fan. XD
Well well well. Looks like Atlas is butthurt that someone actually said “No” to his foppish, tactless advances, and now with Brina going back to the states, he’s got no more chances to fail hitting on her, so he’s gonna send one of his gals to take care of Brina… and just like everything else he’s tried with Brina… It’s gonna fail. Something tells me Brooke would go very far in BRA… if they keep Atlas around, that is
Atlas is just like Vince. If your with him, then you will go far. If you go against him, then he will make your wrestling life hell. I rather have a female Vince, that way she can fight Sabrina, just like Vickie does with Kaitlyn & AJ,or Steph did with Lita or Sable.
Yep, and a little bit of Hogan…the bit that if you’re his friends (I’m looking at you Nasty Boys) you’ll get opportunity.
Atlas would LOVE to get Brooke into BRA and he would pay her ‘extra special attention.’ Yew.
Ouch, the elbow to the boobs was a low blow. Granted, the elbow was right below the boobs too, but still!
Not a place where I like to get hit with an elbow.
80+ comments and you’re the only one to mention that. AWESOME. 🙂
I promise not to elbow you in the boobs, Trevor 😀